| | Ginnsu | Nov 17, 2005 1:34am | I was some what surprized to see that in stumble upon, Gay and Lesbian culture are considered "R" rated. And I can't find any other topic besides where it would be really suitable to post info on Gay and Lesbian issues.

Doesn't it seem discriminatory to classify a part of culture with such a rating? Seems to me it's like saying, the mere discussion of a Gay Wedding, for example, is not suitable for children. Hardly seems right to me. |
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|  Sponsor | 14Peacenow | Nov 25, 2005 8:32pm | | I totally agree they should make straight culture R rated also, what's good for the goose, and all. I would call it prejudice! |
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|  Sponsor | Stevietheman | Nov 26, 2005 8:29am | | Agreed. This is wrong. This is like rating "African-American Culture" an 'R'. |
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|  Sponsor | funkycaucasian | Dec 4, 2005 1:16pm | | All heterosexual topics should be rated R. Especially conservative politics. |
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|  Sponsor | Bison | Dec 4, 2005 1:53pm | | Agreed. I will be sending Geoff a message,regarding this issue! |
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|  Sponsor | Coffee | Dec 4, 2005 3:26pm | | I'd agree. |
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|  Sponsor | Coffee | Dec 4, 2005 3:44pm | Yeah. But I think maybe if we were to create a discussion in general about sex, maybe we could accomplish something greater. One reason why we have so much trouble achieving equality in the US is because Americans are famously terrified of sex. Take for instance the MPAA rating system. A move consisiting of brutal violence in every frame may still get a PG-13 rating, but a mvie with a smidgen of sexual content (I'm talking overt) will be lucky to bag an R, and is much more likely to get an X. If we don't attack this problem at the root, by questioning why sex is percieved as evil in our society, we will never be met comfortably by our peers.
Why, you ask?
Wec refer to ourselves almost exclusively in sexual terms for one. The clinical terms, homosexual and bisexual, and the term we use to describe those who are not like us, heterosexual, still have the word sex as the root. We are not acknowledged as gay until we attain an age where we have sexual urges of some kind. It is often presumed that a child who has not yet reached the age of sexual behaviour is heterosexual by most people. People both within and without have difficulty accepting that we are born the way we are, precisely because they associate heterosexuality with the norm, the default, the condition they presume all people are born as.
We must first grapple with sex itself. Then, we must grapple with the notion that we are not deviants, but part of the norm, and that the norm is not heterosexual but a vast array of sexualities comprising all that is imaginable. We must accept sex if we are to accept ourselves.
Once that is done, then we may approach equality, both on the net and in the real world. Until then, we are mere prisoners of America's puritanical terror of sex and sexuality. |
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|  Sponsor | lerryn | Dec 4, 2005 3:53pm | | well argued, i agree! (i even have a group dedicated to it! "a forum aimed to educate people that nudity is preferable to violence") |
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| | | Ginnsu | Dec 6, 2005 12:57am | "a forum aimed to educate people that nudity is preferable to violence"
Got a link?
Violence being treated so mildly, while even just mere nudity being treated so severely is something that has always bothered me. And in the case of the topic at hand, it seems to me that most of the worlds societies take their treatment of GLBT culture one step further, treating it as something that either "doesn't exist" (or so some wish) or is not suitable for children.
Want to know what effect this censorship had on me as a young mind growing up? I seriously thought when I first heard of people being gay that this was so phenomenon that cropped up in the the 80s. It wasn't until I educated myself that I find out that you can trace mention of it all the way back to the early chapters of the Holy Bible, and that homosexuality is something that appears in many species of animals.
Point is (I know this is a leap, but I'm tired) hiding it from children is no way to foster acceptance, tolerance, or self awareness. |
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