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lerrynApr 25, 2005 11:45am
A Swedish lesbian couple who were thrown out of a Stockholm restaurant in 2003 for kissing won an appeal Monday against an earlier court ruling that cleared the restaurant owner of sexual discrimination
The Court of Appeals in Stockholm ordered restaurant owner Aziz Cakir to pay 50,000 crowns ($7,100) in damages and to cover the legal costs of Sweden's ombudsman against sexual discrimination, HomO, which filed the appeal.

Cakir asked Anna Fernstrom and Susanne Gustafsson to leave his restaurant after they kissed and later told police he did not let anyone engage in such behavior on his premises regardless of their sexual orientation.

242274Apr 25, 2005 7:04pm
a restaurant that doesnt allow kissing,?

is this a swedish thing? cause that just dont sound right to me..

JessieColtApr 25, 2005 7:18pm
Apparently it isn't a *thing* in that restaurant.. cause they found the guy guilty of discrimination.

242274Apr 25, 2005 7:29pm
probably cause what he told the police was BS huh,

doesnt allow anyone to kiss, thats pretty funny..

seriously though, two dudes kissing in public around some places i've been could get them hurt, and harrassed AT BEST


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BildoApr 26, 2005 4:11pm
Come to Knoxville, TN
We have several places where lesbians kiss openly

RedNPinkApr 26, 2005 11:11pm
I'm glad they won. Sounds like a jerk for a restaurant owner.


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Koru999Apr 27, 2005 12:23am
"Come to Knoxville, TN
We have several places where lesbians kiss openly"

I lived/worked in Knoxville for awhile. It's true.

264231Apr 27, 2005 12:37pm
As my friend always says to me, why can straight couples go to so many gay bars/restaurants and feel like they can kiss openly without fear of any reprisals but a gay couple could never experience that level of freedom in a straight venue. At least that's generally the way it is where I live.
So grossly unfair.


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WraywolfMay 27, 2005 6:34pm
Frankly I don't care who you are, hetero homo beasto pedo, I'd rather go through my time in the outside world without seeing two entities engage in the mating dance of tongues, particuarly where I am attempting to /eat/. None of us know how pronounced these ladies were, as well. They might have just given one another a gentle kiss, they could have been tongue-banging for a good 15 minuets... I doubt either side has an honest portrayal of the event. And while I don't agree they should have gone so far as to be thrown OUT of the restaurant, 50,000 crowns seems waaay too generous a reparation. Petty stuff like this is one of the reasons people have such little sympathy for the LGBT community as a general minority. Yes, it's a double standard, but it's one that I feel doesn't deserve equality, but complete abolition for BOTH parties.

264231May 28, 2005 2:01am
I too have an aversion for seeing couples (of any sexuality) engaged in prolongued "tongue banging" in public although I appreciate that there are some places where it's more acceptable to engage in this kind of activity.
And it's true that we don't know the details of this particular story. However "petty stuff" like this as you call it is most definitely not why people have such little sympathy for the LGBT community. Ignorance, warped ideas, hatred, lack of understanding, misguided use of the bible by religious zealots and a whole heap of other distasteful characteristics displayed by the self-righteous pricks of the world is the cause. A lack of sympathy for any minority is generally down to a deep-rooted prejudice rather than anything that that particular minority has done.


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